Trewman’s Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser: Wednesday April 11th, 1877: issue 5852

Exeter County Court: Monday, Before M. Fortescue, Esq., Judge: West of England Sack Company v Hobson: Jury Case: The claim was for £27 9s 2d, being for the hire and value of certain sacks supplied to the defendant by the plaintiff. The case came down from the Queen’s Bench. Mr. Cooke, of Bridgewater appeared for the plaintiff and Mr. Baker, of Newton Abbot for defendant. The plaintiffs carry on business at Langport, in Somerset and in October 1872 and in October 1873 they supplied the defendant, who is a farmer at Paignton with 110 sacks on the term that one halfpenny per seven days was to be paid for the hire of each sack, and if the sacks were not returned, 2s were to be paid for the value of each sack. [this was followed by a discussion of the poor level of documentation, and of the Court’s unwillingness to assign costs as the case had been to a higher court. The defence claimed miss-management on the part of the company and note that they did not name or number their sacks]. The defendant was called and deposed to hiring the sacks in question from the agent of the Company at Newton and Mr. Hawke, miller, of Dartmouth, and that he returned the sacks hired, filled with corn – fifty to Mr. Pinsent at Newton, the remainder to Mr. Hawke’s brother, who was agent to the Company at Dartmouth. Mr. H. A. Hawke, accountant, Dartmouth, said he was agent for plaintiffs in 1873, and was also in the employ of his brother, a corn and coal merchant. The entries of returns of thirteen and twenty-two sacks respectively, which appear in the plaintiff’s books produced, were correct. Mr. J. B. Pinsent, maltster, Newton Abbot, agent of the Company, deposed that the fifty sacks defendant hired of the Company were returned to him, forty seven full of barley and three empty, and were forwarded to the company by his man, witness being present when they were sent off: Thomas Avery, foreman, maltster to Mr. Pinsent proved that the fifty sacks in question were forwarded by him to the plaintiff’ depot in Newton Abbot. In addressing the jury on the whole case, Mr. Cooke contended that the letters proved conclusively that Mr. Pinsent had had the credit himself of the fifty sacks which he had sent back to the Company from the defendant, and that defendant must look to Mr. Pinsent for the amount the Company claimed from him. As to the sixty sacks alleged to have been returned to Mr. Hawke, he contended that the proof tendered was insufficient. In summing up, the learned judge said he did not know what the jury thought, but he should have been very grateful if the two gentlemen concerned, instead of bringing all three complicated accounts before them, had had them arranged in such a form as to be easily understood. There could be no doubt the sacks had been returned to the Company, but the question was to whose credit had they been placed? The jury retired and after an absence of nearly an hour returned a verdict for the plaintiffs for £19 16s 8d, in addition to £2 paid into court.

[followed by a similar case involving the West of England Sack Company]. 


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Exeter and Plymouth Gazette: Tuesday 10th April 1877

Exeter County Court: Monday: Before Mr. Fortescue, Esq., Judge: A complicated Sack Case: West England Sack Company v. Hodson:  The claim in this action, tried before a jury, for £27 9s 2d, being for the hire and value of certain sacks supplied to the defendant plaintiffs. The case came down from the Queen’s Bench. Mr. Cooke, of Bridgewater, appeared for the plaintiff and Mr. Baker, Newton Abbot, for the defendant. The plaintiffs carry on business at Langport in Somersetshire, and in October, 1872, and in 1073, they supplied defendant, who is a farmer at Paignton with 110 sacks, on the terms that one halfpenny per seven days was to be paid for the hire of each sack, and that if the sacks were not returned, 2s were to be paid for the value each sack. Mr. Killop, the manager of the sack company produced three delivery notes of the 110 sacks in question and said that none of the sacks had been returned.  By Mr. Baker: You asked Mr. Cooke, in my presence this morning, to produce the books of the Company before the case came on. Mr. Cooke did not refuse to produce them. Mr. Baker, “What?”: Witness: That in answer to further questions, witness said the books were produced when asked for, and that he pointed them out to Mr. Baker. Mr. Baker: Do you mean that pointed out to me the books tied up in sacks in the courtyard, and said, ”There they are.” Witness: Yes: His Honour informed the witness that he would only injure the case by answering the questions in that manner. Mr. Cooke said that, as his name had been mentioned, he must explain to His Honour that what occurred was this: His friend, Mr. Baker, asked him to produce the books, and as a principle was involved, he informed him that the books were in Court, and would be produced when the case came on. The two sacks of books were then brought into Court, and the delivery book from the agency at Dartmouth, from whence the defendant received the sacks, was produced. On Mr. Baker enquiring for the stock-book of receipts, the witness said he did not know where it was. Search had been made for it, but it could not be found. Another book of receipts was produced, and the witness being shown in that book a receipt for ten sacks from the defendant, and the duplicate receipt produced by the defendant, said he could not account for the fact of the defendant not being credited with these ten sacks.  Mr. Killop was further subjected to cross-examination on the various items in the books, and the evidence assumed such a complicated character, that His Honour suggested that a professional accountant should be employed to go into the matter. Mr. Killop said he would undertake that if the matter was referred to Mr. Andrew (High Bailiff), that gentleman would dispose of it in a quarter-of-an-hour. Mr. Cooke said he had offered to refer the case, but his friend had refused to accept his terms; that the costs should follow the event. Mr. Baker said he could not consent to allow the costs to follow the decision, because the case having been taken into superior Court, in the event of certain finding by the jury, he should have to ask His Honour that no costs be allowed, on the ground that the case ought not have been taken into a superior Court. The cross-examination was proceeded with, and when the “suspense” book was called for, Mr. Killop produced the book in use at the present time, and not the one in use when these transactions took place, as wished for. Also Mr. Killop had to admit that there was a second credit to the defendant of 22 sacks, but the name was spelled Hudson, instead of Hodson, he could not say it was the same man. Mr. Killop, in re-examination, explained that the 10 sacks for which the first receipt on the books appeared were for account of 13, which had been wrongly entered to the credit side, and afterwards rectified on the debit side. In addressing the jury for the defendant, Mr. Baker said that this case presented most of the features of Sack Companies’ cases. Those cases were enormously increasing, and there was hardly a Court within His Honour’s jurisdiction at which there were not some of them. Although, of course, the Company had a perfect right to bring what actions they liked, yet ventured to say that the great number of actions they brought showed that there must be something radically wrong in the management of the Company’s affairs. It had been suggested that the Company should number their sacks, so that they could be traced in the same manner as a banknote, but they declined to do that. Mr. Baker also commented upon the fact that the books which he most particularly wanted were not produced, and upon the manner in which the action had been taken into the Court of Queen’s Bench he held that defendant might be punished by having heavier costs to bear, the Company employed as agents persons in the employ of corn merchants, who sent out the sacks to farmers, and probably many of them were lost after being returned to the agents. The defendant was called and deposed to hiring the sacks in question from the agent of the Company at Newton, and Mr. Hawke, miller, of Dartmouth, and that he returned the sacks hired, filled with corn — 50 to Mr. Pinsent at Newton, and the remainder to Mr. Hawke’s brother, who was agent to the Company at Dartmouth. Mr. Hawke was present when the sacks were returned and made a memorandum in pencil at the back of his book of that fact. In September 1875, the witness had an interview with Mr. Shipton, another agent of the Company, and in his presence Mr. Pinsent’s clerk said the sacks had been returned, whereupon Mr. Shipton said that was very satisfactory:  Mr. H. A. Hawke, accountant, Dartmouth, said he was agent for plaintiff in 1873, and was also in the employ of his brother, corn and coal merchant. He kept his books and took orders for sacks at his brother’s premises. On one occasion he saw the defendant at his brother’s mill, and being told by him that the sacks he had hired from the Company were returned he entered a pencil memorandum in the back of this book but declined to give a receipt till he had counted the sacks. The entries of returns of 10 and 22 sacks respectively, which appeared in plaintiff’s books produced, were correct. Mr. J. B. Pinsent, malster, Newton Abbot, agent of the Company, deposed that the 50 sacks the defendant hired of the Company were returned to him, 47 full barley and 3 empty, and were forwarded to the Company by his man, witness being present when they were off. There was a dispute between the witness and the Sack Company afterwards, and when their clerk came down to see him, he placed all the books and papers in his office at their disposal. Thomas Avery, foreman maltster to Mr. Pinsent, proved that the sacks in question were forwarded by him to the plaintiff’s depot in Newton Abbot. To the best of his belief, they were taken in by a small boy. In addressing the jury on the whole case, Mr. Cooke contended that the letters produced proved conclusively that Mr. Pinsent had had the credit himself of the 50 sacks which he had sent back to the Company from the defendant, and that defendant must look to Mr. Pinsent for the amount the Company claimed from him. As to the 60 sacks alleged to have been returned to Mr. Hawke, he contended that the proof tendered was insufficient. In summing up, the learned Judge said he did not know what the jury thought, but he should have been very grateful if the two gentlemen concerned, instead of bringing all these complicated accounts before them, had had them arranged in such a form as to be easily understood. There could be no doubt the sacks had been returned to the Company, but the question was to whose credit had they been placed. The jury retired, and after an absence of nearly an hour, returned a verdict for plaintiffs for £19 6s. 8, in addition to £2 paid into Court.

[see similar Western Times: Tuesday 10th April 1877 & Western Times: Friday 13th April 1877]


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Western Times: Wednesday 30th March 1877

Accident: On Monday evening a man named Wonnacott, assistant-brewer in Messrs. Pinsent’s establishment fell over the stairs at the brewery and broke his leg. He was taken to his residence in Tudor Road and attended to by Dr. Haydon’s assistant, and subsequently by Dr. Scott.


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East and South Devon Advertiser: Saturday 24th February 1877

Newton Abbot Devon: Freehold and Leasehold Dwelling Houses, Shops, Cottages, and Premises for Sale: Messrs. Rendell and Symons have received instructions to offer for sale by public auction, at the Globe Hotel, Newton Abbot, aforesaid, on Tuesday the 1st day of March next, at 3 for 4 o’clock in the afternoon, the following: … includes …  Lot 1. — All those Three Dwelling-Houses and Shops situate in, abutting on, and known Nos 28, 30, and 32, Wolborough Street, Newton Abbot aforesaid. and now in the respective occupations of Messrs. Avery, Weatherdon, and Dottin. And also, all that Malthouse and Thirteen Cottages situated behind the above-mentioned Dwelling- Houses and known as “No. 10 Court,” Wolborough Street aforesaid, now in respective occupations of Mr. J. B. Pinsent, and of Messrs. Harris, Miller, Furze, Bearne, Frost, and others as Tenants. The Property comprising the above Lot is Freehold, and the Dwelling-House now known as No. 28. Wolborough Street aforesaid, has been for many years past and is now used as a Beer and Cider Shop, at which a good retail business has always been done. The Shops adjoining have an excellent Frontage and are situate in one the principal thoroughfares of the town, whilst the Cottages and Premises behind are at all times readily let, and the Lot an Entirety will ensure to a Purchaser a Remunerative Interest on his Outlay.


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Torquay Times and South Devon Advertiser: Saturday 20th January 1877: 

A Wine Merchant’s Dispute: Gibbons v. Finch & Co.: – the plaintiff, the proprietor of the Commercial Hotel, Torqeed Street, claimed of the defendants, Messrs. Finch & Co., wine merchants, of Exeter, £17 10s for loss alleged to have been sustained through a breach of contract. … … (expert witness called) … … Mr. John Pinsent, wine and spirit merchant, of Newton, said that brandies were selling in March 1876, at 125 francs, or 5s 6d gallon. If delivered in quarter casks the price would be increased to 5s 9d or 6s gallon. It was not an unusual thing to allow brandy to remain in bond after being sold for three or five years. … … In answer to His Honour, Mr. Pinsent said that it was the custom of the trade to allow the travellers to alter their prices, as it greatly depended upon who the customer was. …


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Western Times: Thursday 21st December 1876

Newton: Testimonial: The retirement of Mr. E. C. Kent, from the management of the Devon and Cornwall Bank, after a long and faithful service, consequent upon advancing age and declining health, has excited the sympathy of his numerous friends and customers of the Bank, who in addition to their well wishes for his peace and comfort has given it the most tangible proof by subscribing a purse of sovereigns to aid as far as it will in procuring it. The subscribers number nearly 100, the principal of whom are John Vicary and Sons, £50; John Berry and Sons, £20; Devon and Courtney Clay Co., £10; Francis and Baker, £10; Capt. Munro, £10; J. Pinsent and Sons, £10; J. H. Whiteway (Kingsteington), £10; Watts, Whidborne and Co. £5 5s; … Savery Pinsent £5 … (etc.)(letter from subscribers and reply from Mr. Kent)

[Western Times: Friday 22nd December 1876]


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Western Times:  Monday 11th December 1876

Newton: County Court: Friday: Before Judge Fortescue: There were 19 defended cases for hearing today, 16 of which were brought by the West of England Sack Company to recover £120 17s 6d for the hire of sacks, and others that had not been returned: Two of these were jury cases: the case of Hannaford v Elliott referred to Mr. Sawdye, junr. of Ashburton, at the last Court, which £40 was claimed for a horse. Mr. Creed, who appeared for the plaintiff, now stated that the arbitrator had given his award for £30, and asked that judgment be entered for that amount, which was done. Mr. Baker appeared for the defendant. The West of England Sack Company v. Pinsent: Jury case: Mr. Reed, of the firm Cook and Reed, Bridgwater, appeared for the plaintiffs; and Mr. Baker for the defendant, brewer and spirit merchant of this town. The action was brought to recover £30 5s 8d for the hire of sacks in the latter months of 1872, including the price of a few that had not been returned. The case, which lasted several hours, was of a very complicated nature, inasmuch as it revealed the fact that a large number of sacks were ordered by other parties in Mr. Pinsent’s name without any written authority, and contrary to the printed instructions of the Company; others were alleged to have been returned and not credited; for instance, it was proved that a Mr. Pinhay borrowed 35 sacks in Mr. Pinsent’s name without his authority, and Mr. Hawke, of Dartmouth, in 1872, sent a quantity of barley to Mr. Pinsent in the Company’s sacks, 143 in all, but of which, although returned, 93 alone were credited, leaving 50 uncredited. In addition to that 48 were transferred to Mr. Tully but charged to Mr. Pinsent. There is thus accounted for 133 sacks, which the defence contended was 10 more than they were actually charged for, and consequently were not indebted. Numerous witnesses were examined, and a receipt put in of an account settled the 10th Dec. 1873, for £3 15s 3d, which, with 18s 6d for six sacks that were rejected, made a total of £4 13s 9d. That was the last transaction defendant had with the plaintiffs, and that time there was a balance of 10 sacks to the credit of the defendant. The case lasted 6 ½ hours and resulted in a verdict for the defendant.  All the other cases were adjourned, and the second jury discharged.

[Western Times: Tuesday 12th December 1876].


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Exeter and Plymouth Gazette Daily Telegrams: Saturday 9th December 1876

The West of England Sack Company and Their Customers: Of the nineteen defended cases to be heard at the Newton County Court, on Friday, before Mr. Fortescue, Esq., no less than sixteen were claims made on their customers by the West of England Sack Company. The first action, tried before a jury, was brought by the Company against Messrs. Pinsent and Company, brewers, of Newton, to recover £30 5s 8d for the hire of sacks alleged to have been lent to the defendants, and also for the value of sacks stated to have been retained by the defendants since November 1873. Mr. Reed, of Bridgwater, appeared for the plaintiffs and Mr. Baker for the defendants. It seems that, in 1873, Messrs. Pinsent had extensive transactions with the plaintiffs, and that in December of that year a supposed settlement of accounts was made between the parties. It was subsequently found that several persons dealing with Messrs. Pinsent had borrowed sacks of the Sack Company in defendants’ name and was in regard to these sacks that the claim was made. All liability for the sacks thus borrowed was repudiated by Messrs. Pinsent, notwithstanding that the usual notice was given them by the Company in some instances that, unless they repudiated their liability within three days, they would be held liable for the sacks. The defence raised by Mr. Baker was that, as the defendants were not the contracting parties for the sacks in dispute, they bad been wrongfully charged for them, whilst all the sacks hired by Messrs. Pinsent were returned directly they were emptied. In the course of his remarks, Mr. Baker pointed out that the amount claimed for the hire of a certain number of the sacks was nearly three times much as their value, and, considering this was so profitable a business he said it was a wonder there were not sack companies in every village. These sack companies carried on their business in manner which required that they should adopt some better system by which these endless disputes should be avoided, for the large number of disputed claims brought into Court showed that there was something faulty in the method which the companies carried on their business, and that they should prove strictly every case they brought into Court. It might be said that sack companies and tallymen kept County Courts going. (Laughter.)  Mr. Reed, in his reply, said Mr. Baker might also have added lawyers amongst those who kept the County Courts going. (Laughter.) With regard to the large amount of profit on the sack company’s business, he maintained that the defendants agreed to the terms of their contract, and therefore had no reason to complain on that account. His Honour, in summing up, after hearing a great deal evidence, expressed his regret that the case was not taken before an accountant, who, after quietly going through the details, could have arrived at a mathematically correct conclusion in the matter instead of recourse being had to the haphazard course of having so complicated a case tried before a jury, with the assistance only of judge who was obliged rapidly to take notes of the accounts and explain them to the best of his power. The disputes that had arisen between the solicitors on either side clearly showed how impossible it was, in a case of such intricacy, to try it satisfactorily before a jury. He was very sorry, but the only way in which they could arrive at anything like a just conclusion was by going through a number of accounts which would take an accountant two or three hours. The members of the jury, looking anything but pleased – they had already been sitting over six hours – retired for consultation, and after an absence of half-an-hour they returned the verdict for the defendants, his honour allowing the costs. It appeared that the Sack Company had originally entered 50 cases, all of which, except 16, were settled. During the absence of the jury, a conversation ensued between his Honour and the solicitors engaged as to the desirability of having the remaining 15 defended cases referred, his Honour intimating that, it then being nearly six o’clock, he could not take another jury case that evening, and, as there were other cases to be heard on the second day the sitting, it would not be fair to others that the whole of the two days should be taken up by the Sack Company. Several gentlemen, including the Registrar (Mr. Pidsley), Mr. T. Andrew (Exeter), Mr. Dawe (Plymouth), and Mr J. Alsop (Newton), were mentioned as arbitrators, but the parties could not agree, and the only decision arrived at was that the other jury case, in which the Sack Company were the plaintiff, should be adjourned until the January Court, to see if some arrangement could not be affected in the meantime. The other cases were also ordered to stand over to the same Court. A great deal of feeling was exhibited, and the Sack Company’s solicitor himself questioned the wisdom of bringing 15 cases into court at one time.

[see also Exeter and Plymouth Gazette: Friday 15th December 1876]


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Express and Echo: Saturday 9th December 1876

County Court, Yesterday: Before Mr. Matthew Fortescue, Judge: West of England Sack Lending Company v. Messrs. Pinsent and Co., (Jury case.) Mr. Read, Bridgwater, represented the complainant, who claimed of the defendants, brewers of Newton, for whom Mr. Baker appeared, £80 5s 8d, portion of which was for the hire of sacks alleged to have been lent the defendants, and for others retained. It appeared from the evidence that in the year 1873, Messrs. Pinsent had extensive transactions with the plaintiffs, and that in December of the year a supposed settlement of accounts was made between the parties. It was subsequently found that several persons dealing with Messrs. Pinsent had borrowed sacks of the Sack Company in the defendant’s name, and it was in regard to these sacks that the claim was made. All liability for the sacks thus borrowed, was repudiated by Messrs. Pinsent, notwithstanding that the usual notice was given them by the company in some instances that unless they repudiated their liability within three days, they would be held liable for the sacks. Mr. Baker’s defence was that, as the defendants were not the contracting parties for the sacks in dispute, they had been wrongfully charged for them, whilst all the sacks hired by Messrs. Pinsent were returned directly they were emptied. The case occupied several hours in hearing and terminated in a verdict for the defendants, his Honour granting costs: …


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Exeter and Plymouth Gazette: Friday 20th October 1876

The Brewer and the Publican: At the County Court, on Friday, before Mr. Judge Fortescue, a case of some interest brewers and publicans was heard: Mr. Pinsent, brewer, of Abbot, for whom Mr. Baker appeared, was the plaintiff; and the defendant, represented by Mr. Fryer, of Exeter, was, until lately, landlord of the Temple Bar beer-house, Queen-street, Newton, and now lives Poole, Dorset. The case for the plaintiff was that, more than two years ago, he bought Mr. Stranger, a previous occupier of the public-house, certain articles in and about premises for £100 and, on the defendant becoming the occupier, be made an arrangement with him to take off these articles for £70. In the negotiations which took place, Mr. Robins demurred to pay £70 and ultimately Mr. Pinsent agreed to let him have them for £60, the amount paid in installments of £4 a month. Defendant remained in the house nearly two years, and during time paid £36 on account, leaving a balance due of £24. Then the defendant gave possession to his brother, who, after having had two years’ use of the articles, sold the articles again for £50. In addition to the £24, there was further claim of £5 17s for ale supplied: In cross-examination, plaintiff said he took the public house to keep the other brewers out. (Laughter) The £100 he paid to Mr. Stranger was for goodwill as well as the articles. The latter were worth £ 50, but he could not enumerate the articles, as he never saw them. He denied that he ever agreed to sell the articles for £36. Mr. Holmes, managing clerk to the plaintiff, said the defendant and his wife never raised any dispute about the amount agreed to be paid until just before their leaving, when they said they had already paid the full value of the articles. The defence set up by Mr. Fryer was that the amount agreed upon to be paid by defendant to plaintiff was £36, and no more, and the Instalments of £4 month were kept up regularly until the whole was paid. This took nine months, and after that time no application was made for any further sum until the defendant, having let the house to his brother, was about to leave. The fact of Mr. Pinsent having given £100 for the goodwill and goods was easily explained by the circumstance that he, being a brewer, would be disposed to give larger sums than anyone else to be able to supply it beer, having previously been a free house. The £50 paid by the defendant’s brother to him was for other goods as well as those originally purchased by the defendant. With regard to the claim for the ale, it was admitted that one kilderkin, value 18s was returned and received; a second kilderkin was also sent back, but the plaintiff refused to receive it, and it was returned to the defendant’s brother.  Defendant and his wife having given evidence in support of the allegation that the sum agreed upon was £36, Mr. Baker replied for the plaintiff, submitting that the balance of testimony was in his favour, inasmuch was very improbable that would sell articles for £36 which only a few weeks previously had cost him £100. His Honour thought people in Mr. Pinsent’s position should be little more businesslike in their proceedings, and he blamed him for not having had a written agreement of the transaction. In a country where people often so grossly misunderstood each other, it was a wonder a little more precaution was not taken to prevent it. It was quite possible in this case that both parties had spoken the truth, but what impressed him was that no application was made to the defendant until a considerable time after the payment of installments amounting to £36 had ceased. It might have been that, as the defendant left his situation at the gasworks just then, the plaintiff did not wish to press him. Although he thought this fact told strongly against Mr. Pinsent, he did not believe he would come into Court to commit perjury for the sake of £30 or £40. Taking all the probabilities of the case into consideration, he gave a verdict for the plaintiff for £4 19s. being £1 4s. beyond the £3 15s. paid into Court on account of the beer supplied.

[see also Exeter and Plymouth Gazette Daily Telegrams: Saturday 14th October 1876]


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